From the Burrow

Lisping Elsewhere

2017-04-07 12:53:13 +0000

From Sunday to Wednesday I was away on Brussels at the European Lisp Symposium. It’s an opportunity to see good talks but more importantly to me it’s a catch up with some folks I haven’t seen in a year and nerd out.

Aside from that I’ve been cracking away at getting sketch working using CEPL under the hood. It’s rendering using lisp shaders now and live recompile works great. There has been a slight performance drop as sketch used buffer object streaming to upload the vertices and I’m not doing that yet. In fact CEPL doesn’t expose glMapBufferRange at all so first order of business is fixing that. After that I want to make a vertex-ring it’s going to be an object that encapsulates the buffer object streaming pattern and will make using it seamless.

I have also been working on fixes to Varjo that will finally get Geometry shaders working. The task for the last few days has been rewriting how Varjo handles return & making Varjo use interface blocks for passing data between stages. The reason for working on return (apart from it being buggy) was that in geometry shaders your primary task is to ‘emit’ extra geometry rather than ‘returning’ transformed data via the out vars.

I’m hoping that this weekend I can get those two things coded and tested. After that I need to look at the Geometry shaders themselves, I know there are some ugly details around ins & outs so wish me luck.

Tired but happy

2017-03-28 09:52:45 +0000

I’m tired right now but also really happy with the reception the video got.

I’ve had a number of PRs to CEPL & Varjo with fixes for various things. Of special note is a chap called djeis97 who has been given me a pile of help with issues in my geometry shader generation. He’s been using the inline glsl features of CEPL too which is awesome.

In order for geometry shaders to work properly I need to do the following:

  • Improve CEPL’s handling of arrays
  • Generate interface blocks between shader stages
  • Fix some hacks around return & out values
  • Add some helpers for emitting vertices.

I’ve made some progress on the arrays in the last week and will be starting on interface blocks asap.

I’ve also had one chap who works on a project called sketch decide that he has had enough with dealing with opengl directly and wants to build his project on top of CEPL. This is exactly the kind of project I’ve wanted to see built with CEPL, stuff that has a clear set of trade-offs and makes making stuff super simple. His current approach supports multiple windows however, and CEPL did not, so I have been getting that in place. This has meant (even though Im not implementing yet) looking at multiple GL contexts and threading.

CEPL has no business with your threads and expects you to use them wisely, sketch however was built on top of sdl2kit which handles threading for you. This mismatch with CEPL is a little problematic and, as I don’t yet have any libraries for helping with the threading situation, I’m going to make a shim to make sdl2kit drive CEPL. It’ll be butt ugly but will hopefully be enough for now.

It’s the European Lisp Symposium in Brussels next week so it would be awesome if I had something new to give a lightning talk on..or even just to show of with :)

At some point I need sleep too.


Traveling Again

2017-03-23 11:29:50 +0000

Turns out I booked a bunch of small trips last year and they all are around now. Sorry for the late update.

I got back to coding yesterday and have been working on the compiler. Since the talk I have some great support from djeis97 and jobez on issues in CEPL & Varjo. One big thing I realized was more broken that expected was Geometry Shaders, so that is current top priority.

The prerequisites for fixing this are better array support in Varjo & support for interface blocks, so whilst traveling I was reading the GLSL spec again. Last night I added checks to make sure you are not trying to access an uninitialized variable and then started on adding lisp’s make-array function.

As I currently don’t track const‘ness in Varjo I can’t validate a bunch of the array rules that the GLSL requires. However those are errors that will be caught by the driver’s own glsl compiler so I’m not worrying about those too much yet.

That’s all for now Peace


2017-02-26 23:48:26 +0000

As I wrote so late last week I haven’t got too much to add here, however I have made progress on tweak.

The goal is to be able to inspect & change data easily while the program is running. You wrap a form in (tweak ..) and you get a small window (rendered using gl via nuklear) which allows you too mess with the value.

For example given this:

(defparameter *some-val* 10)

You can write this in the main body code

(tweak *some-color*)

And you get this:

And if you scrub the value it immediately applies to the form you are tweaking. You can define different tweak ui’s for different lisp types so extending will be easy. I still need to add a couple of helpers for that though.

Other than that I made a little companion library to SDL-TTF which allows people to render text straight to CEPL textures. So this:

(with-font (font "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf")
  (text-to-tex "Yo!" font (v! 1 0 0 1)))

Gives you a texture with the text.

That’s the lot I’m afraid. Time for sleep.

Late again

2017-02-23 17:59:01 +0000

I have traveled to see family this week so sorry for the late writeup.

This week went pretty well. I went through the PBR example I had been using line by line making notes and then tried to match my implementation to theirs.

I had made some progress but still the colors looked washed out, something must have been putting the color values way out of wack. Finally I saw it, I had been adding a color I should have been multiplying. A facepalm and a tweak later color started looking like this

much better

I’m still not convinced that the example’s approach for creating the final color is correct, however this is plenty good enough for now.

With that done I revisited my UI code (which uses nuklear) and found that it was broken…shits.

A bunch of git archaeology told me the issue was related to my GL context caching. Double shits

..and then that the crash occurred because I had made CEPL’s handling of the context more robust. At this point a drink was in order, but after that, fixing!

The result was that I hadn’t been unbinding VAOs correctly when rendering and so then subsequent buffer unbindings had been captured in the VAO. This sucks but was a 1 line fix and CEPL is much better for it.

Theres other stuff going on buts they are not worth yakking about right now.



2017-02-13 11:04:37 +0000

As I was so late writing last week I don’t have a lot that’s new, but I need to keep the rhythm of writing these.

I have been focused on getting my maths library up to scratch. I did a bunch of work on getting the non-consing api cleaned up and merged. This involved fixing a whole host of optimization notes from the compiler. The compiler I use is pretty good at explaining where it is forced to ‘waste’ speed and why. The biggest single change was changing the return type of the vector length & distance functions to show that it could only return positive floats. That was important as the square root of a negative number is a complex number, so by indicating the functions could only be greater than 0 the compiler could ignore the complex number cases.

I also found a branch where I had started adding support for lines, rays, line-segments & axis aligned bounding boxes in ℝ3. I fixed up the line-segments & AABBs and got that merged too.

Finally I started the non-consing (destructive) version of the matrix apis. This is also on master.

Tonight I want to test the non-consing api against the consing version to make sure I haven’t introduced any bugs. I’ll then redefine the consing version using the non-consing functions to do the work. At that point I’m probably ready to stop scratching this itch and focus on graphics stuff again.


Boring Necessities

2017-02-09 21:47:47 +0000

This week (and a bit) has felt like a bit of a blur as I’ve mainly been working on boring stuff that just needed doing. I’ll be honest, I can’t remember what I did so I’ll just go spelunking through my commits and see what I find.


I started yet another project :p. This came out of me feeling the uncertainty you get when you have written a good chunk of that stack you use (and don’t have enough tests). It’s stupid to have written this thing which is meant to be nice for creating things and then be stymied by and lingering sense that something, somewhere must be breaking.

One thing I really wanted to be sure about was that my maths library rtg-math was solid.

As I didn’t want to rely on my own (very limited) knowledge I decided to make a basic fuzz testing setup where I compare my library against other math libraries written in Common Lisp.

I built on top of the excellent fiveam testing library and made a fairly nice system for defining comparative tests across several libraries. It takes into account that a library’s features will not exactly overlap with another. I’m happy with it so far but it’s not ready for github yet.

Anyhoo I set it to work and found that a lot of stuff is working just fine. One function (the matrix to quaternion function) was broken. At first I stupidly blamed the c++ I based the function on until, after many re-reads, I noticed that the [] operator had been overloaded to index from x and ignore the w component altogether. This meant I had a bunch of ‘off by one’ indexing errors in that function :facepalm:.

However I did find a typo in the book’s code which has now been fixed! So that’s a nice side effect of this work.

I then got massively mistake about the api of another library I was comparing to (sorry axion). The process of being gently schooled by psilord on the #lispgames irc was incredibly helpful but did send me into frequent ‘What if my entire api is wrong’ panics.

Luckily he provided me with some excellent links and I’m slowly getting a better grasp of the terminology.

Luckily, as my library is heavily based on the c++ code from the text book I learned from, my library is fine and then only problems were (and to some extent remain) with my brain :D


Whilst working on the above I also got a friendly jab that my vector math was too slow. It turns out the ‘jab-er’ in question was comparing his destructive (mutable) api with my non-destructive one. This is kind of understandable as I didn’t have a destructive api to compare against.. but of course I fixed that >:)

Below is the (very basic) test I did to check how it performs:

;; First we make a list of 1000 random vector3s
;;                                    ↓↓
RTG-MATH> (let ((to-add (loop :for i :below 1000 :collect 
                           (v! (- (random 2f0) 1f0)
                               (- (random 2f0) 1f0)
                               (- (random 2f0) 1f0))))
                (res (v! 0 0 0)))
            ;; Here we make the list circular
            ;;     ↓↓
            (setf (cdr (last to-add)) to-add) 
            ;; Then we iterate 100 million times adding the elements of
            ;; the circular list into the variable 'res'
            ;;    ↓↓
             (loop :for i :below 100000000 :for e :in to-add :do
                (v3-n:+ res e)))
Evaluation took:
  0.748 seconds of real time
  0.748000 seconds of total run time (0.748000 user, 0.000000 system)
  100.00% CPU
  2,297,194,923 processor cycles
  0 bytes consed 
#(-1248991.9 2382024.5 358581.84)

Not too shabby! bytes consed in lisp means ‘memory allocated’ so we see this only mutating the vectors already created.

The test is pretty rough and ready however the list is long enough that it wouldn’t just fit in a cache line, and the random calculates are outside the loop as they the slowest part of my original test.

In the process of making these destructive versions of the API I have been going through the majority of the codebase adding type declarations to everything I could. I still have some optimization work and cleanup to do but it’s mostly giving the compiler the information it needs to do it’s job.

Optional typing is fucking great


Nineveh is intended to be a ‘standard library’ of gpu functions and helpers for CEPL. It has code that doesn’t belong in a GL abstraction but is really useful to have. Currently it’s not in quicklisp (the lisp package manager) as it’s still too small & too in flux however progress is being made.

The main addition this week was a draw-tex function which will take any texture or sampler and draw it to the screen. Simple stuff but it has a bunch of options for drawing in certain portions of the screen (top-left, bottom-right etc) scaling, rotation, drawing cubemaps in a nice ‘cross’ layout and maintaining aspect ratios while doing this.

Also Ferris helped me find some (really nasty) bugs in one of the functions in the library which was ace.


I spent yesterday evening at Ferris’ place where I got a bunch of help with some artifacts I was seeing in my code. It helps so much to have someone who knows what certain things should look like. When it comes to graphics coding I really lack that.

In the process of this I found the previous mentioned bug in nineveh, a bug in my compiler (let wasn’t throwing an error for duplicate var names) and added a way to support uint literals.

This has made me much more confident in the code, and with where the rest of artifacts I’m seeing are probably coming from. HOPEFULLY will have some new screenshots soon.


I haven’t been getting enough, so I’m going to bed.


Captain Merge'in

2017-01-31 23:07:59 +0000

It’s done, finally merged. Hundreds of commits, 15 issues closed, a monster is dead.

The biggest thing I’m noticing right now is how slow the evening goes when you aren’t crunching :D

I was looking at last week’s post to see what I was up to and I realize that although I’ve been feeling like I was going really slow I’ve had 52 commits in the last week which includes the following:

Added a simple api for user’s to be able to inspect the compilation environment in their macros

Common Lisp allows you to access the environment in the macros, however the interface to interact with that object didnt make it into the standard. It was, however, documented so I can still read it [0]. I decided not to implement that api yet though and instead I just made the functions I felt made sense. It will be easy to revisit this when I feel the drive to.

Added ‘declare’

Lisp allows you to declare information about things in your code, whether it is whether a function should be inline or the type of a value, it’s handled through declare

Once again, although it didn’t make it into the standard, extending the kinds of things that can be declared has been thought about and documented. For now I just hooked it into my compile-time-metadata system. A little reading reveals that the proposed system is a rough superset of what I offer so at some point I will implement that and redefine by metadata using it.

Added ‘deftype’

This is one place I left the lisp spec entirely. deftype in lisp is mad, types are seen as sets of objects (makes sense) and they don’t restrict you in how you define that. For example I can say:

;; a function that returns true if given an array where
;; all it's dimensions are of equal length
(defun equidimensional (a)
   (or (< (array-rank a) 2)
       (apply #'= (array-dimensions a))))

;; the type of all square arrays
(deftype square-matrix (&optional type size)
  `(and (array ,type (,size ,size))
        (satisfies equidimensional)))

This is super expressive but totally impossible to check at compile time as you can have arbitrary function calls in there. The compilers do a great job on using the flexibility in some cases though, which I won’t yak about now.

In GLSL things are very different, we don’t want to do anything at runtime unless we can help it. We can’t make any types except structs and I already have a nice mechanism for that.

However there are so things that may be interesting.

  • Making a ‘special kind of’ some exisiting type. For example a rotation type that is essentially a vec3. In the GLSL it will be a vec3 however by making the type checker see it as a different type we could make it impossible to pass a position as the rotation argument to a rotate function by accident. I call these shadow types (I probably need to rethink this name :p).

  • Making a type that only exists at compile-time for the purpose of holding metadata. This ‘ephemeral’ type never appears in the resulting GLSL and is an advanced feature but can be useful. I use these to represent vector spaces in my code and then use macros to inject code to create the matrices that transform between the spaces.

To make a shadow type I write (deftype rotation () :vec3)

To make an ephemeral type I write (deftype space () ())

In the case of shadow functions I also allow you to easily ‘copy’ functions that are defined for the type you are shadowing. This means you don’t have to redefine addition, subtraction etc for your rotation type, you just copy it from vec3

Mooore Types

One problem with how I used to write lisp is that too often I would use lists when I should have used classes. This has bitten me in the arse one to many times and so I refactored a bunch of stuff to have their own types.

This will help with future refactoring and also as I start working out the ‘final’ public api for my compiler.

Rewrite Space Feature in CEPL

Spaces are a feature I have spoken of before but I will quickly recap. They are a fairly simple idea, you define a scope with a vector space and inside that scope all vectors have to be in that space. If you try and use a vector from another space it will be automatically converted to the correct space before anything else happens. This lowers the chances of messing up your vector math and makes the code more self-documenting.

Previously this was implemented by:

  • compiling the code once
  • analysing the AST for places that needed conversions
  • patching the code with the needed conversions
  • recompiling and using the new GLSL

This felt super hacky as all of the process was specific to my compiler. I have now rewritten it using macros, there is much less that will feel alien to a lisper[1] and it all happens in one pass now.

Change the default minify-filter for samplers in CEPL

I thought I had a bug in the textures or samplers in CEPL. I was using the textureLod function in my shaders but no matter what mipmap level I chose nothing would change.

I spent hours looking at the code around mipmaps and finally found out that nothing was wrong, but I had misunderstood how things were meant to work. I had imagined that textureLod allowed you to query the colors from a texture’s mipmaps regardless of the filter settings, whereas actually you need to minify-filter to either linear-mipmap-nearest or linear-mipmap-linear before ANY querying using textureLod is possible.

CEPL defaulted to just linear as it felt the simplest and I didnt want to confuse beginners (irony goes here) but instead I created a behaviour that was surprising and required knowledge to understand. This interests me and I’ll muse over this in future when designing apis.


Just whole bunch of other stuff. Not much to note here other than how quickly trying to make nice errors seems to balloon code.

For example if you are processing 10 things, and one fails, it is easy to detect this in the process_thing function and throw an error. However this means that the user may fix the one thing retry and hit the same error on the next thing. Really we want to aggregate the errors and present an exception saying ‘these 15 things failed for these reasons’. This would give the user more chance of seeing the patterns that are causing problems. This is especially true with syntax error in your code. You don’t want them one at a time, you want them on aggregate in order to see what you are doing wrong.

This also means that your error messages should be able to adjust depending on the number of things that went wrong. For example when 15 things break the ‘these 15 things failed for these reasons’ message is cool, but if only 1 thing broke we want ‘this thing failed for this reason’. These subtle language differences can make a huge difference to how the user feels about the tool they are using. Pluralizing words when there is only one thing sounds dumb and just adds to the annoyance of the tool not working.

I don’t have ideas for a clean solution to this yet, but one day I want something for this.


I’m damn tired now. I’m off to bed.


[0] [1] and once I have the stuff from [1] it will be even better

Inside the machine

2017-01-23 10:42:23 +0000

I’ve been back in the compiler this week and it’s just been constant refactoring :p

I kicked of the week with tweaks & bugfixes to the first-class function code. I then started on adding some compile-time metadata to Varjo.

The idea is super basic: We want to associate some data with the values flowing through the shader.

We already have flow-ids, which represent the values in the shader, so we could just add a hashtable that maps these ids to the data. Simple, and it seems to work!

At the very least it will work enough to make some progress on the idea anyhoo. You are able to add, but never remove metadata. Metadata can also be combined, for example:

(let ((x (v! 1 0 0 0))  ;; ← lets assume that both these have metadata
      (y (v! 0 1 0 0))) ;; ← with a key called 'foo'
  (if something

What should be the metadata for the result of the if? Clearly this depends on what the metadata is for. So in the case of conditionals like if or switch we call a method called combine-metadata defined for that metadata type, and it is it’s job to decide the metadata for the new result.

This mechanism is very simple but should be enough to get some useful results.

So with this in place I could dive back into re-implementing my space analysis feature! Progress.. excitement… Ah fuck it, I really need symbol-macros.

Symbol macros are pretty simple:

(let ((x some-object))
  (symbol-macrolet ((foo (slot-value x 'foo))) ;; You specify a symbol 'foo' and what it will expand into
    (print foo)   ;; the compiler then replace every instance of 'foo' in your code with the expansion
    (setf foo 20) ;; before it compiles to code
    (print foo)))

So what actually ends up getting compiled is:

(let ((x some-object))
  (print (slot-value x 'foo))
  (setf (slot-value x 'foo) 20)
  (print (slot-value x 'foo)))

So that should be simple to implement.


Alas when I made the macroexpander[0] for Varjo I was super lazy. I didn’t implement any lexically-scope macros and just expanded everything in a prepass. This really hurt as I suddenly needed to go change how all this was written and mix the expansion into the compile pass.

This refactor took all of Sunday and it was one of those ones where you are changing so much fundamental stuff that you can’t compile for an hour or so at a time. As someone who compiles many times a minute this just left me feeling very unsettled. However when it was done the little test suite I have made me feel fairly confident with the result.

Another nice thing about all this is that my macros will now be able to take the compilation-environment as an argument just like in real common lisp. This means I can provide some of the environment introspection features that are described in CLTL2 but sadly didn’t make it into the standard. This together with metadata make the macros extremely powerful.

Next week

The first order of business is compiler-macros, which should be easy enough. Then I want to add support for &rest (vararg) arguments to the compiler. Then I will get back intothe spaces feature and see how far I can get now.


[0] back in 2013, holy shit!

Back in the create phase

2017-01-17 16:47:48 +0000

The other week I was nattering about how I feel I oscillate slowly between needing to create and needed to consume, these last 2 weeks I have definitely been back in the ‘create’ mode. I’m hammering away at the compiler and the new stuff is starting to feel nice. I won’t bother with deep explanations as it’s wouldn’t work in this format, however I have been doing the following:

  • Refactored up how the compiler compiles functions. I certainly can’t say this code is clean yet, but it is at least not lazy. I used to just splice the function code in as a local function and let the code de-duplicator take care of things, this worked well enough for a while but I’ve been fighting it recently so I’m happy to sort this out.

  • Tests! These have been worth their weight in gold this week and I’ve been tidying them up and adding a few more as I debug things.

  • Moved the flow-id to the type: In short I have an ID that is used to work out where values (especially arguments) travel inside functions. When talking to a chap at work about this he mentioned ‘dependent types’ and this stuck with me. Given that this is metadata about the things flowing around, it is the kind of info that could live on a type. I have thus moved this to a field inside the type object and in doing so cleaned up a TONNE of things. This felt great.

  • Started cleaning some of the code used to represent functions from the glsl spec and realized a bunch of it was redundant. Deleting code is heavenly.

  • Deleted more old code related to types (from when I tried to encode the glsl spec’s stupid gentypes directly )

  • fixed assorted bugs

  • found more bugs

  • Started work on supporting the void type. Funnily enough I have not supported void so far in my compiler (except for the main function). The reason was that all code in lisp is an expression, so everything has a return (even if it’s nil) to that end I worked to make sure this felt right in Varjo. However this has always left a few places that felt janky so I’m making void work now. This is pretty easy.

I’m basically going to be hammering on more of the same this week. I want to get this working and into master asap. One downside of the above is that in CEPL I had to introduce a hack to keep my spaces feature working. However I realized the other day how to replace all the crazy AST transforms I do in CEPL with a much simpler mechanism that is more general and will live in Varjo. More on this soon.

That’s the lot.